Laziest Engine?

"Logansteno: Bought a VW?" (logansteno) 05/19/2014 at 18:59 • Filed to: None

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This doesn't essentially mean it's a bad engine, it just doesn't have to put effort forward to get a car moving.

I nominate the 5.3 V8 GM used in the 2000-2006 GMT800 trucks.

You press the pedal down and you expect it to downshift, but it just stays in gear and pulls you up to speed as effortlessly as any motor could. And it'll just keep pulling and pulling all the way up to redline.

On the highway, its spinning at about 1600 RPM. And that's while being attached to a 4-speed transmission.

It is the definition on a lazy motor in the best way possible.

Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 05/19/2014 at 19:03

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I nominate the LDK.

2.0 Liter Turbo.

Direct injection.

And on the highway in 5th gear if I want to pass, I simply press the pedal a little bit, the turbo spools and the car takes off to pass effortlessly. It's kind of odd that it does that, nothing else I've driven or owned has been able to do it without even flinching.

Delta Five Nine > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 05/19/2014 at 19:05

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4.6 Modular in any panther body for basically the same reason. Love dat torque. The perfect non-hooligany daily driver to me.

crowmolly > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 05/19/2014 at 19:07

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The engine in any GM car with a T56.

6th gear is useless below 70. In a 94-2002 fbody you are doing around 1400 at 65. The engine will just loaf along, and if you give it gas you can still pass people.

T5Killer > Delta Five Nine 05/19/2014 at 19:07

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PI or NPI?

Crest > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 05/19/2014 at 19:07

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You're gonna have to go 80's Rolls Royce for that one

Milky > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 05/19/2014 at 19:09

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Engine is great. Transmission spoils it.

There is no middle ground with it. You push the pedal 70% of the way and you get barely any more power. 71% and you get ALL THE REVS. I notice it every time I drive one.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT 05/19/2014 at 19:10

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Seems like lazy engines are a GM staple.

Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 05/19/2014 at 19:11

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Seems so.... I mean I made 400 ft lbs of torque at 2 thousand RPM......really GM.....really, do I need THAT much tq THAT low in the RPM range.

Granted this was tuned, and slightly modified.

offroadkarter > Delta Five Nine 05/19/2014 at 19:12

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ford put a shit trans tune on these cars, just like GM did on the truck. Thats why they are so lazy. The 2v isn't a stump puller and the 4V is absolutely a mid-high powerband engine.

Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 05/19/2014 at 19:14

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This was my first dyno run on the car....Old tune, old engine, but look at the torque line.....

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Milky 05/19/2014 at 19:14

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That lovely middle ground is what I'm talking about. All the 800s I've been exposed to have that meaty midrange.

The 4L60E must be a hit-and-miss transmission.

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 05/19/2014 at 19:15

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5.0 in a Town Car. Before you know it you're passing people at 100mph

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT 05/19/2014 at 19:18

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Even the Ly7 in my mom's Vue has 248ft/lbs at 2100 RPM. That's a low torque peak even for a V6.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT 05/19/2014 at 19:18

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That's bloody amazing that that's coming from a 2-liter 4 pot.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > crowmolly 05/19/2014 at 19:19

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Like I told 404, GM does lazy engines well. Torque is available really low on most of their older engines.

Vicente Esteve > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 05/19/2014 at 19:22

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I would say the 4.6 Litre V8 in a 2002 era F-150. My father had one, and I used it for a while. It is really really lazy, barely over 500rpm at idle. Then, if you floored it, which I only did once since it disliked it quite a lot, the V8 just whined and whined. But they weren't deafening, they were just whines that would be in slow motion. Either way, this is the truck after one of my adventures parked in my girlfriends neighbourhood:

dogisbadob > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 05/19/2014 at 19:22

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Almost any new car engine with more than four cylinders. Cars are so powerful these days you just have tap the gas lightly and it gooooooooooooooooes

Diesel engines are likely candidates too since they're the king of low-end torque.

No Prius Needed > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 05/19/2014 at 19:23

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The 3.0 V6 in my 2003 Lexus Es300. It makes at most 2 mad whp and 6lb of torque which propels this amazing piece of engineering to a blistering top speed of 6mph.

Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 05/19/2014 at 19:23

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Thank you sir.

Stock intake, stock turbo, stock errything besides a slight tune to it, it was a shit tune.

If I keep this car and get it reflashed AGAIN BECAUSE MY FUCKING CAR HATES ME, then I will be making some good numbers, somewhere around 350+whp and 400+ wheel tq.

Those were wheel numbers in the dyno pic I posted as well.

But as of now I have a company willing to regind my cams for free, and reflash my ECM for free to adjust the Air Fuel and the duty cycle on the injectors, as well as up my boost slightly.

crowmolly > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 05/19/2014 at 19:24

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The '90 454 SS pickup has a torque peak at 1700. 385 lb-ft. Small for today's standards but in 1990 that was a big number. And it's all in at 1700!

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT 05/19/2014 at 19:25

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Because race rental car!

Seriously though, that sounds kick ass!

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > crowmolly 05/19/2014 at 19:25

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Now I understand why my dad bought one. That's basically at idle!

Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 05/19/2014 at 19:30

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Thank you sir.

May be getting something completely different after I talk to the wifey later. See what she thinks about a vehicle I have my eye on as of today.

lone_liberal > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 05/19/2014 at 20:01

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Easy. The Cadillac 500ci monster. Five hundred and thirty lb-ft at 2800RPM.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 05/19/2014 at 21:37

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We've had 4. All of them were never abused or overworked. Never had one make it to 100k miles.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > No Prius Needed 05/19/2014 at 21:38

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The 4Runners of the early 90's had the early SOHC version of this engine. I know more of your pain.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 05/19/2014 at 21:39

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Huh.

My dad's has made it to 136k with many netural drops and heavy abuse in those miles.

Like I said, maybe they're just hit-and-miss.

No Prius Needed > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 05/19/2014 at 21:41

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I can't imagine how slow it must be. I am very sorry...

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 05/19/2014 at 22:00

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We've just had all the misses. All of these were before I could drive, so they weren't abused.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > No Prius Needed 05/19/2014 at 22:01

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Dangerously, but I've gotten used to it.

No Prius Needed > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 05/19/2014 at 22:02

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It is still frustrating being overtaken by pretty much everything.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > No Prius Needed 05/19/2014 at 22:05

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I just no longer take it seriously, after being passed by Priuses, you just kind of face reality.

No Prius Needed > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 05/19/2014 at 22:12

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I guess I will have to sadly.

jdrgoat - Ponticrack? > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 05/20/2014 at 03:06

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I like my engine. As long as it's over 900rpm and you're not trying to go fast, it's happy. Anything over about 1700 and it'll comfortably do whatever you ask. And on the flip side, if you want to go over 6000 it'll be grinning right along with you.

Signed,
Another lazy GM engine